Title: I NEED HELP
chickyjack - December 5, 2006 10:30 PM (GMT)
As some of you know.
My room mate Colleen and I, only moved in together Sept 1rst. That would have been the first day Yayo & Noa met each other.
Yayo - 8 Years OLD

Noa - 5 years OLD

They have now been living together for 3 months, and have made little to no progress. They still hate each other. At first I thought it was because Yayo is older and doesn't want to play, but the hissing starts the second they are left alone together.
Yayo is my cat, he has been through alot in his life, I only adopted him last January from a shelter near my home. He was adopted at 8 years old and was my only cat for 7 months b4 I got Lucifer.
Noa is Colleen's cat, has been the only cat at Colleen's his whole life. He gets along great with Lucifer, but can not seem to get on the good side of Yayo. He has recently bit Yayo on his tail, so bad that it was crooked and had to be cleaned everyday from mom.
The reason I haven't asked for help b4 this, is because I thought over time it should get better, but so far nothing
ANY IDEAS or SOLUTIONS - would be a great help
coaster - December 6, 2006 12:24 AM (GMT)
Mmmmm....I wish I was the bearer of good news, but after three months of this I think their attitude is pretty well reinforced. The usual course of action would be to separate them and reintroduce them. The trouble is, the separation would need to be pretty long. Long enough for the antagonism to die down. And then there's no guarantee the reintroduction will work. I should add that I went through all of this myself and ended up having to rehome the aggressor cat.
Can you afford to consult a feline behaviorist? A behaviorist might be able to see if there are any triggers in the environment that are causing or aggravating this behavior and suggest conditioning or behavior modification to stop it.
That's a really cute picture of Yayo. :luv2:
herkittyness - December 6, 2006 12:54 AM (GMT)
Hi there! When I first got Kisa, I asked on a regular basis what I should do to get them more aquanted. I used lots of TLC and it took well beyond 3 months before they started acting like they were getting along. After about 4-6 months, it finally came together. Use lots of positive reinforcement, spend time with them both, and it will come together. Don't give up on them yet!
Keep us posted!
coaster - December 6, 2006 01:08 AM (GMT)
I'm sorry I couldn't give positive support, but that was based on my own experiences. I will agree with that it's too soon to give up. I worked with Tommy for over a year before I finally concluded it was going to work out. The only danger, is that with a new cat, you get bonded and then it's very difficult giving them up. But that doesn't apply here -- you're already bonded. Cats can easily take six months or longer in some cases to get totally at home in their new surroundings. So, yes, don't give up yet!! :comfort:
But.........to be realistic I think you should be willing to accept there's some possibility it could come down to giving up the roomate as the only solution. :(
mom2raggies - December 6, 2006 02:13 AM (GMT)
Do you think a feliway room diffuser could help any? I've heard some people have had positive outcomes with it.
Elizabeth - December 6, 2006 02:37 AM (GMT)
I've been dealing with my problems between Marley & Sasha. But it doesn't seem as bad as yours. Sasha & Marley tolerate eachother, they just gave a few chasing fits a few times a day. But they are fine alone together for the most part.
I recently bought the Feliway and hoping it works! You can try that, but bear in mind it can take up to 4 weeks to notice anything and 3 months to see a real difference, if any at all.
Good luck!
cats2fancy - December 6, 2006 05:10 AM (GMT)
I have heard following these steps help a great deal.
Seperate so they aren't left alone and then reintroduce slowly. If the seperation can allow just a door between them, it is often good, because they will often let their guard down and play underneath the door with their paws.
When reintroducing, make it a very positive experience. For example ~ play with both of them with feather teasers apart from each other but in the same room so that the experience is nice, but they aren't competing for the same toy. Maybe they could both have a catnip toy or a boogie mat with catnip to play on. Give them each treats like greenies or freeze-dried tuna flakes.
Keep doing this process with lots of patience and don't leave them at home alone together until you feel confident they will be alright. Just keep a litterbox with food and water in a safe place for one of them even after the seperation and reintroduction period to insure that they aren't together unsupervised.
I really hope with this process and time they will become tolerant and perhaps even accepting of each other.
Good luck!
Donna :kittyluv:
Silvine - December 6, 2006 12:26 PM (GMT)
I'm sorry you are having troubles. You have very good advices from other members.
I wanted just to say may be you have to involve your room mate when playing with your cats. Remember cats are a jealous and get mad if they think they are not getting all your attention. I'm not saying you don't pay attention to him, but I bet your companion feels a bit threatened and is acting this way for fear and jealousy.
So reintroduce both of them and play time for the four of you will ease the things.
Keep us posted about the progress. Don't give up hopes. I have a Siamese and I'm happy he at least tolerate his sister...
Good luck :smooch:
Silvine
chickyjack - December 6, 2006 01:22 PM (GMT)
Thank you!
I will try flieaway as it seems to be the nly solution that i think might work. I live in a 2 bedroom apartment so keeping them seperate would be hard. Yayo is 8 and doesn't really play with me anymore, most of the attention he wants is cuddeling with me when i watch tv.
Noa, I think is the biggest perpatrator he knows Yayo is timid and sketchy and doesant want to play, and yet he still stocks him.
There is a deffinet jealousy happening though. When I have Yayo petting him, and if Noa comes over and I reach to pet Noa on the head. Yayo will do the deep belly growl until i move my hand back.